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can i run an efi stock motor without an efi tank?

66broncoluvr

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greeting all,

i want to do my efi swop but dont want to spend the cheese on the 23 gal tank right now. Can it be done with a frame rail pump only? as long as there is a return line to the tank? unless someone reading this has a tank they want to sell alot cheaper than they are asking for one... hopefully optimistic
 

DirtDonk

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Sure can. Even Ford did it that way for the first couple of years on the trucks. Not sure cars ever got the external pumps, but the trucks did. The #9791 on this page: https://www.wildhorses4x4.com/product/Tapered_Roller_Bearing/bronco_rear_axle is a good example.

Lots of people doing that. Even after swapping to a 23g tank even. Usually though, after the frame mounted pump finally gives up the ghost, they go to an internal pump after all.

Paul
 

Nothing Special

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.... Usually though, after the frame mounted pump finally gives up the ghost, they go to an internal pump after all.

Paul

In my case my frame mounted pumps only lasted a few years (I had two die). I ended up going back to a carb and a mechanical fuel pump, but I would recommend an in-tank pump if you can swing it. Being stranded on the side of a freeway with a dead fuel pump wasn't fun either time it happened to me.
 

SteveL

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Back in the early days of efi swaps guys were running accumulator tanks. I think its for the return. Not sure I'm still running a carb.
 

Timmy390

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Adding to the YES's

Been running EFI on my W for 3 years now. Stock Bronco tank with pump mounted on the cross member at the tank. Return line spliced into the filler neck vent.

No issues thus far......

Tim
 

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sykanr0ng

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You can even cut a hole in the top of a fuel tank with a hole saw and put an in tank fuel pump in.
 

Skiddy

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mine has been run that way for the last 10 years and no issues, pump mounted on the cross member next to the tank
 

sanndmann3

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You can even cut a hole in the top of a fuel tank with a hole saw and put an in tank fuel pump in.

I essentially did this with my stock tank and haven't had any issues so far. A little bit of head scratching and fabrication, but do-able.
 

Rocko1012

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I followed exactly what Timmy390 did, Just started EFI motor for the first time last week. It was a lot easier than I originally thought. External E2000 fuel pump, fuel line from summit (roll) on frame rail, fittings from EARLS plumbing. It even looks good.
 

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I’ve been running a pusher pump mounted on the cross member and high pressure pump on the frame rail for 8+ years with no issues. As others, return line tee’d into tank vent line. A frame mounted high pressure pump is a lot easier to swap out if needed.
 

lars

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18+ years on a Bosch frame mounted pump bought new from the local Ford dealer. 23 gallon NWMP tank but could just as easily have used a stock tank, just need to add a return line somewhere.

Until a few weeks ago I also had the original OEM aux tank, I added a return line to the sender unit. Drilled a 3/8" hole in the sender mounting plate, then silver-soldered a stainless steel tube into it. Supported on the inside with a hose clamp to the pickup tube. Worked perfectly, also for 18+ years. That could work on an OEM main tank as well, though it would be easier to put a return fitting on the filler neck.
 

rustbucket

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I have a stock tank with a bunge welded for a return line. If you pay shipping, I’ll give it to you free.


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DirtDonk

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...23 gallon NWMP tank but could just as easily have used a stock tank, just need to add a return line somewhere.

Uh, no...
I think not, with the way you use yours Lars.;D Just how far into the outback on a week's long tour of the badlands do you think you'd get on a total of barely 18gallons between two tanks!:eek:
I've seen your pictures. Not very far!;D

Just kidding. I know you meant the pump. But I when you mentioned stock tank I had to laugh. I can just picture your rig with five extra 5-gal cans hanging off of various appendages.

Paul
 
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