Anyone running Method rims know what offset?

[BoltBuster]

Looking to run 35" tires expecting the best offset to be 3.50"?

 

[399strokerEB]

I believe John Melton is

 

[AZ73]

Offset is the distance from the center of the wheel to the inside of the hub mount. This can be positive or negative (negative is towards the inside of the wheel, positive is towards the outside of the wheel.) Backspace is from the rear of the rim to the center of the inside hub mount. Backspace is affected by the wheel width while offset isn't, and 35" tires are affected by the wheel width and the width of the tire and the diameter of the wheel. I'm running 17X9 Methods with a 4.5 backspace (meaning the offset is zero - it's exactly on the center line of a 9" wide wheel although technically it's 12mm, about 1/2 inch because they measure their offset from center from the inside of the rim instead of the outside), with 35x12.7x17 tires. The rear tires don't go past my warfares. The fronts go about 1/2" past the warfares. My tires will hit the frame without the stops dialed in slightly. More backspace, more hitting of frame with 35" tires because more backspace pulls the whole wheel and tire inwards. If you run the same tires on a 3.5" backspace, they'll stick out more.

 

[Calibronc66]

Running methods on my 66 went with The Standards cause they came in a 17x9 with 4.5 back spacing


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[Madgyver]

full width axles
17x9 4.5 bs

 

[Madgyver]

same wheels as above. 17x9 4.5 bs
stock width axles
1.5" spacers on front axle
2" spacers on rear axle

 

[Rbuddy98]

Method 17X9 4.5 backspace 35 inch tires T-Rex arms 2.5 lift with 1/2 inch body lift

 

[ba123]

I posted this thread a while back cause it’s not so simple as backspacing. Width matters and I think it’s knowing more.

https://classicbroncos.com/forums/threads/method-wheels-35-tires-8-5-vs-9-wheels.319488/

If you go with an 8.5” wide method rim, you want one with 0 offset, which I think has 4.75” backspacing.
If you go 9” wide, you want -12 offset, which has like 4.6” backspacing.

It also matters where you want them overall. Not all rigs are the same, so best to know what you have and go from there.

 

[jonmelton]

I'm running Methods 17x8.5". I got the 0 Offset, and the wheels tuck under the Bronco completely. Both front and back. I liked a little bit of the wheel sticking out, with my previous wheels I had about 2" sticking out on both sides.

But, like someone said, not all Broncos are the same.

 

[ba123]

The tire size matters as well, not just the wheels. Gotta add that to the calculation, so figure the center of the wheel, the tire width. Also why it really helps to figure out what you have on there before deciding. There is a huge variation on tire widths. That’s what sticks out, not the rim, but a 9” wheel that is -12mm offset vs 0 offset 8.5” wheel…

With an 8.5” rim, 0 offset and you have 4.25” on each side of center.
With a 9” rim and -12mm (about 1/2”), you have 4.25” on the outside, and 4.75” on the inside.

That gives an “aha” moment for what backspacing means and how it’s different based on rim size.

But either is the same on the outside and thus your tire is what matters. You can find 10.5” tires or 12.5” tires. But there are other manufacturers with different offsets or you can use spacers.

 

[Mostly70]

Thank you for this info. On my 1970 Bronco, I bought Method 17x8.5 with 35x12.50 Falken Tires. Look and work great. Anyone know the recommended tire pressure for highway driving? Sidewall reads 65# but that sounds crazy high. Thanks.

 

[ba123]

65 is prob just the max. I’d think you want something between 35-40.

 

[Mostly70]

Thank you. Sounds much more reasonable.

 

[DirtDonk]

No tire lists the recommended tire pressure for a particular vehicle. It's ALWAYS the "maximum safe cold pressure" listing on the sidewall.
On a truck tire, especially those larger than 15" diameter, it's usually WAY over what you will end up running. Wayyyy over!
There is no one recommended pressure. As said for the fitment part of the discussion, every Bronco is different, so your tire/wheel/vehicle weight combination might be different from others.
But a typical starting point is to start at 30 and come down from there as needed. Many of us run down into the low 20's in the rear and the high 20's to low 30's in the front.

Here is where the "chalk test" or similar comes in handy. The rears are easy to find that sweet spot, but the fronts are not quite that simple especially if you have lots of camber and/or toe-in.

The tires with heavier load ratings, such as a Load Range E vs a Load Range C will also typically have higher max pressure ratings. My pickup's 16" E-rated tires for example have an 85psi max rating. Funny thing though, is that I run almost that much when fully loaded up! Otherwise I probably have 50 in the rear and 65 in the front on my particular truck.
The '71 Bronco on the other hand, with the crappy Thornbirds with a 35psi max, runs about 35 in the front and 30 in the rear.
The '68 with BFG 31" KO's (I think?) I run about 22 in the back and 32 in the front. I've tried anywhere from 20 to 40 in them and this is what they (and I) seem to like.

If you don't do the chalk test right up front, keep an eye on your tire treads and sidewalls. If you see tire wear down the side it means you have too little pressure (possibly by a lot!) and if you see wear only in the middle, it means you have too much pressure. This is why the rears are the easiest to judge. Because they sit relatively flat on the ground compared to the fronts. And they don't have to go through the same turning awkwardness as the fronts.
If you see the dirt/dust worn off in the middle and the dirt remains on the sides of the tread, keep letting air out a couple of pounds at a time until it's about 1/4 to 1/2 inch from the edges. This leaves some leeway if you load up your rig heavily on a regular basis.
Otherwise, let it wear off right out to the edge of the tread. If you're not going to be carrying extra weight, the extra safety factor of more pressure is not needed. And you can always add it down the road if you do decide to carry a load of firewood!

paul

 

[Mostly70]

Thank you, Paul.

 

[Sendero]

Method 17X9 4.5 backspace 35 inch tires T-Rex arms 2.5 lift with 1/2 inch body lift

If you don't mind me asking where did you find a 1/2" body lift? Those 285/75/17s look great, I am thinking about going with that tire size but afraid the narrower tire (11.5 instead of 12.5) wouldn't look right on the 9" rims but yours seems to look correct. Thoughts?

 

[Rbuddy98]

I made the 1/2 inch spacers out of aluminum and added to the stock body mounts.

 

[Seattle66]

Really happy with my new Method Blacks Rims and Tires.
Rims: Method MR701, 17 x 9, -12 offset
Tires: BFG MT's 35 x 12.5R17

I purchased from Discount Tire because they had some rebates. Key note is their website is annoying and will NOT let you checkout without entering your vehicle. They don't even have 66 Bronco in their list. I tried fooling it by selecting a bunch of other trucks with same wheel pattern and that didn't work. I went into a Discount Tire and the guy was able to override it and place the order for me in the store.