3 1/2" WildHorse VS JamesDuff w/4BT

[krause]

Ok so im sure this has been gone over before but I think my circumstances are a lil different, and I am well aware of both companys contributing to this forum but they are both high quality I cant decide.

So heres to scoop. I have a 76 that im doing a cummins 4BT swap in with a dodge nv4500 and a ford np205 tcase. Im going to do a 3 1/2" shock loop lift and want to ride as nice as possible 90% going to be street use with ocasional beach and light trail. The entry level kit in either company no extreme or anything i dont want a body lift. Both kits are similarly priced and similar in design the main differences I saw were James duff comes with dual rear shocks and their loops are powdercoated. Not a big deal to me because ill paint/powder coat what I need. And wild horse suggested I do a drop pitman arm and that i might want to use 4 1/2" coils in front to make up for the extra weight of drivetrain. Do I need dual rear shocks? Do I need a drop pit arm? should I go for the 4 1/2 coils up front?

Which kit should I get!? Thanks for any input!

 

[BluebroncoNC]

Not sure you NEED duel rears, but they look way cool. I put duels on mine, then went to change out the shock boots to blue, to match blue, and well I sheered off one of the anchor pins at the top. (will post pic's soon) So for a month, till this last week, I drove around with 1 shock on the left rear and 2 on the right rear. Didn't feel a difference.

Glad its fixed though.

 

[WILDHORSES]

For the front springs move up to the 5.5". We have been involved in a few 4BT conversions (from the suspension stand point) and that is what ultimately worked best.

Jim

 

[krause]

I was more concerned with the dual rears making the ride stiffer. But the dual rears can be added tovthe WH system. I guess the only things are WH suggested inch taller coils.. .... Wild horse or James duff??!!

 

[PaveBronco]

WH.
Sounds like they know exactly what you need and you could have the parts ordered today. Duals are over rated...may be needed on your front though..

 

[jhill52]

Both companies are fine venders and I have bought from both but in this case it sounds like Wildhorses has experience with what you are doing.For street use I don't think you need duals on the rear. I would suggest the taller springs and dual shocks on the front.

 

[01Dudley]

Dual shocks on the front yes. Rear you are correct based off most opinions dual rear shocks create a rough ride. Oh course I am basing this off our system and shocks. I hear of a lot of guys running the single bilstens on the front. I know with our shock dual on the front is the way to go.

 

[krause]

For the front springs move up to the 5.5". We have been involved in a few 4BT conversions (from the suspension stand point) and that is what ultimately worked best.

Jim

So your saying go up 2" up front to the 5.5s instead of just 1 up to the 4.5s. I just don't was a nose high level. Might be best to speak over phone about this.

 

[garberz]

I'd factor in a body lift. That's going to be a tight fit without one.

 

[Dbteak]

I went with a 2 1/2" lift both front and rear and it does not sag in the front because of the 4bt. Even with a 4 1/2" lift you still will have to clearance the oil pan. I have a 2" body lift and I probably could have used my stock hood if I got creative with intercooler piping.

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[Pa PITT]

... I see no need for the 2 shocks in the rears .. But I used 3.5 spring up front of my 4BT and I have 1 inch lift on top of my stock pucks. I do have 2 inch blocks in the rear. of mine.
... After my swap was finished ..aka.. about a year later. It seemed to me that a lot of the myths. about weight.. Vibrations..Weight distribution, were just that Myths ...
.. My 4BT is just not front heavy and it does not vibrate. I have managed to shut my hood over the BT.

 

[chuck]

We have done 2 4BTs both set level, one 3.5" with winch coils, the other one 4.5" with winch coils. Maybe WH is using progressive coils? I don't use duel shocks on anything except racers.
Dbteak, nice truck

 

[krause]

We have done 2 4BTs both set level, one 3.5" with winch coils, the other one 4.5" with winch coils. Maybe WH is using progressive coils? I don't use duel shocks on anything except racers.
Dbteak, nice truck

What brand lift are you using. And when you say "winch coils" im assuming that is a heavier duty coil. Sorry im still new to the EB world

 

[krause]

To the top... What I would like to hear is more people that did the swap and see what you guys did. I think there's more of them out there than you think!

 

[chuck]

Sorry for the very late reply. I was talking about my coils. The "wench" adds 1/2" to the lift without the wench i.e. the 3.5" coils will lift a EB 3.5" the 3.5" with wench coils will lift the EB 4" without a wench. I figure on the wench and bumper weighing around 150 lbs.

 

[ET]

I used to run BCB's 5.5" non winch coils. Bronco dropped about an inch when I put my motor in. BCB's coils are soft which is great for offroad and why I went with them. It really depends on the coil. I'd bet if you use superlift/skyjacker coils, they wouldn't budge at all. WH already suggest the height. Call duff and ask what their coil rate is.

Eugene