Oil Pan Mod for Coyote

mbhaddad · Feb 27, 2018

I am working on a coyote build and i've got notes from a while back that i will need to modify to oil pan to fit with a 2.5" SL. I can't seem to find the source of my notes and would like to do the mods with the motor on the stand before trying to install it. Does anyone know what needs to be done to it to clear?

The motor i picked up came from someone who was going to swap into a newer mustang and he had a canton laying around, wondering is that would actually be the right clearances for the modifications of the stock pan?

https://lmr.com/item/CAN-15730/Mustang-Canton-Coyote-Swap-Oil-Pan-79-10-15-730

stock orange · Feb 27, 2018

email me and I can tell you what I know. ejwalsh@mac.com

STalon89 · Feb 28, 2018

To get the motor in the truck you'll need coyote motor mounts, oil relocation kit (oem wont clear the frame), and take an inch of the passenger fender well. I would do the serpentine kit, oil relocate and headers while the motor is out. Things get tight once you drop it in.
I dont believe you'll have any oil pan clearance issues. They say if you're going off road alot to do a 3.5 lift to get a little more clearance.
Also, you'll need a 2 inch body lift to get the brake booster up off the valve cover and to make some room in the transmission tunnel.

mbhaddad · Feb 28, 2018

STalon89 said:
To get the motor in the truck you'll need coyote motor mounts, oil relocation kit (oem wont clear the frame), and take an inch of the passenger fender well. I would do the serpentine kit, oil relocate and headers while the motor is out. Things get tight once you drop it in.
I dont believe you'll have any oil pan clearance issues. They say if you're going off road alot to do a 3.5 lift to get a little more clearance, but that is just for debris, not fitment.
I have a 2.5" lift and its fine, nothing modified.
Also, you'll need a 2 inch body lift to get the brake booster up off the valve cover and to make some room in the transmission tunnel.

Interesting,I have the BC motor mounts and oil relocation, going to pickup their sep setup soon, i have some mustang headers that i guess need to either be modified or replaced. I swore there was an issue with the oil pan hitting either the front diff or the cross member at 2.5". Are you running normal bump stops?

STalon89 · Feb 28, 2018

I stand corrected. This is a surprise to me as well. Just spoke with Jason. 2.5" lift you'll need to mod your factory pan. 3.5" lift, you wont. He's unsure if the pan from LMR will work. They are currently working on a pan that you can run with any lift or even stock height. Said its about 6 weeks out. Looks like I am going to have modify mine. Luckily theres no fluid in yet. Hes sending over some pics of the factory pan modified for reference, I will include them here once I get them

STalon89 · Feb 28, 2018

I would also suggest grabbing all your parts from one vendor if you can. Ive heard of problems with some headers not clearing because they used anothers motor mounts. Headers and serpentine are a very tight fit.

mbhaddad · Feb 28, 2018

My guess is that the main dip down is too tall and contacts the diff housing the mod would then need to have an inch taken out of the main belly?

STalon89 · Feb 28, 2018

Yup. On large dips when the suspension flexes, it hits the diff. When I get the picture from him it should be pretty obvious.

I would much rather modify the pan than go to 3.5". Truck is tall enough with the 2" body lift.

lbrendis · Jun 13, 2018

Any luck on the pics of the modified oil pan. I have 3.5 lift and it kisses the front diff when I stomp on it. I don't want to rely on bump stops I would rather let the suspension cycle naturally.

mbhaddad · Jun 14, 2018

I ended up going with this moroso pan, it's 2" shorter but definitely more expensive than modifying the stock pan. I think if you are modifying the pan you would just cut an inch out of the height and cut the same relative distance off the oil pickup and reduce total capacity relative to how much depth you reduce.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/...MFynl48sqbVdBHIOKU-bAGHHCNkl7ZmBoCLdkQAvD_BwE

lbrendis · Jun 14, 2018

Thanks for the response. Were you able to use your factory dipstick (it says you can) and your factory oil pickup? 2 inches more of clearance would keep me off my diff.

mbhaddad · Jul 21, 2018

Yes to the factory dipstick but no on the oil pickup had to use the oil pickup that goes with the new pan which is here https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mor-24570/overview/

BR66-77 · Aug 7, 2018

@mbhaddad

How's the Moroso pan work out for you with the 2.5 lift? Does it clears the differ. if so, how much clearance do you have now?

I will need this part for my 69 coyote swap.

Thanks in advance.

STalon89 · Aug 8, 2018

This is an interesting topic. BC Broncos says you need to modify the pan at 2.5" but not at 3.5". Bryan at classic ford broncos says he runs all his trucks at 2.5 and doesnt modify any of their oil pans.

Anyone have actual confirmation of contact at 2.5? Keep in mind that this truck will not be going off road.

mbhaddad · Dec 5, 2018

BR66-77 said:
@mbhaddad

How's the Moroso pan work out for you with the 2.5 lift? Does it clears the differ. if so, how much clearance do you have now?

I will need this part for my 69 coyote swap.

Thanks in advance.

It didn't workout at all, in my case with the AX15 the tremek bell housing with the pull type clutch lever ended up hitting the protruding point of the oil pan. The pan protrudes out on the sides to hold oil instead of going down further. It would probably work on an automatic trans or hydraulic clutch setup. I still have the pan sitting around if interested in a good deal pm me

thiswildbronco · Apr 11, 2019

STalon89 said:
I stand corrected. This is a surprise to me as well. Just spoke with Jason. 2.5" lift you'll need to mod your factory pan. 3.5" lift, you wont. He's unsure if the pan from LMR will work. They are currently working on a pan that you can run with any lift or even stock height. Said its about 6 weeks out. Looks like I am going to have modify mine. Luckily theres no fluid in yet. Hes sending over some pics of the factory pan modified for reference, I will include them here once I get them

Looks like I'm bumping this thread back up. I'm in the middle of a Coyote swap and am looking for the right solution to the oil pan clearance issues. Above there is mention of "Jason" who was in the process of producing a modified pan? Back in February '18, he was 6 weeks out. I'd love to find out about Jason and what happened to this. Thanks!

JSmall · Apr 11, 2019

SeventhWave said:
Looks like I'm bumping this thread back up. I'm in the middle of a Coyote swap and am looking for the right solution to the oil pan clearance issues. Above there is mention of "Jason" who was in the process of producing a modified pan? Back in February '18, he was 6 weeks out. I'd love to find out about Jason and what happened to this. Thanks!

Can't help with the pan question, by Jason is one of the owners of BC Broncos

thiswildbronco · Apr 11, 2019

JSmall said:
Can't help with the pan question, by Jason is one of the owners of BC Broncos

Thanks Jaromy!!! Much appreciated!
BTW, I know you from insta (I'm thiswildbronco). Love your ride!!!

Calling Jason now

JSmall · Apr 11, 2019

SeventhWave said:
Thanks Jaromy!!! Much appreciated!
BTW, I know you from insta (I'm thiswildbronco). Love your ride!!!

Calling Jason now

You're welcome! Are you still working with Robert on yours? I love all the parts that you've used so far

thiswildbronco · Apr 11, 2019

JSmall said:
You're welcome! Are you still working with Robert on yours? I love all the parts that you've used so far

Yup, Robert's the Man! I got seriously delayed waiting for a Dennis Carpenter tub which took MONTHS to arrive, then many months working with an inferior product. Eventually sent it back and am about to receive a new tub from Scotty Winton. We receive it tomorrow. Fingers crossed!

Robert has been fabbing up a wicked coil-over set up that will work with my LUBR without cutting into the floor. I'm ready to start making some more rapid progress.

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